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 Critique - Hungarian Vizsla Club of SA

 

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Hungarian Vizsla Club of SA First Championship Show

Judge:  Mr. S. Warry (WA)

Let me begin by thanking the Committee and the Club for allowing me the opportunity to judge your inaugural Championship Show.  It was indeed a huge honour for me.

A huge thank you also to the exhibitors for their entries, and allowing me to examine their dogs, for without these there would have been no show.  I thank everyone for the cleanliness and 'bloom' in which you presented your dogs to me, and compliment you on the quality temperaments of your dogs.  Thank you also for the sports-manlike way you competed and accepted my decisions.

Specific thanks goes to your show manager Alun Gallie and my ring steward Paul Jennings for the efficient manner in which the show was conducted.  My compliments gentlemen.

And thanks for the weather!!!! as it was a beautiful day on which to judge year dogs.

Now to the dogs: Let me begin with a few more generalised comments.

There were a few distinct head styles within the dogs that were presented on the day.  Some were of a lighter style, shallower & more pointed in muzzle than I was looking for.  They also tended to be lighter in bone and therefore lighter cast.

Some were of a more proportioned shape, and depicted the correct gauntness as required by the standard.  Correctly set, slightly oval eyes that gave the correct expression.  These dogs tended to have more medium bone as required by a dog of this size and activity.

The remainder were of a much heavier style, rather broad in the backskull, and somewhat hound-like through the muzzle with too much depth and lacking the correct flatness of the cheeks.  These tended to also have hound-like ears, much bigger and fleshier than is required.  These specimens also tended to be heavier cast.

I found a few with smaller and obliquely set eyes, which does not give the correct expression.  Most however were of the correct set and shape, and most had a nice colour.  Coat colour and texture, in the main, was excellent, and I found that most had the required 'greasy' feel.

Necks in the main were of good shape and length, as was the placement of the withers.  I found the length and angle of the shoulder to be good in most of the dogs, which allowed the neck to blend into the topline smoothly.  This is a breed that is not expected to have tremendous length of upper arm, but what is more crucial is the angle in which it lays to the shoulder.  I found a few short upper arms, but more that were too upright and therefore I found some elbows too far forward.  This affected the dogs forequarter movement, evidenced with paddling and flicking of the pasterns.

This breed is required to have a short, level back, which is well muscled.  I found many well muscled backs, but a number that were too long, and a significant number that were too long in the coupling.  Pelvic angulation was a major concern.  I found far too many pelvis's that were too upright or tilted too steeply.  This affects the topline, as many had rounded croups.  This type of construction also means that the dogs hindquarters ie.  his upper thighs/second thighs/hocks & feet, stand too & underneath the dog instead of positioning behind the dog.  Please do not confuse overextension of the hindquarters by the handler as the look that is required.  Allow the dog to stand naturally, and compare the height if its pelvis with that of its withers.  The topline should slope slightly down to the pelvis, NOT the other way around, as the breed standard requires that the withers are high.  When the dog is standing correctly, the front of the hind foot should stand in a line perpendicular to the rear portion of the pelvis.  Incorrect hindquarter assembly not only affects the position of the tail, but also greatly affects the dog's ability to drive well with his/her hindquarter.

Many of the dogs had the tendency to overreach, either as a result of being moved too fast, or having the incorrect balance between forequarter and hindquarter construction.  Most of the feet were nicely shaped and cat-like, but some were splayed and rather flat.  In working gundogs, feet are of prime consideration, and must be given prime consideration.

Puppy Dog

2 entries.

1st:  Marsden's
Erdos Indiana Jones

Young dog of good size and proportion, good height to length ratio with excellent topline and tail set.  Has a pleasing head with good depth of muzzle, clean.  Good width and depth of chest, although slightly loose at the elbows on the move.  Correct pelvic position, displaying good drive and a pleasing profile movement.

2nd:  Townley, Trinka & Walter's
Aceweis Red N Hot

Slightly heavier dog overall, would have preferred a sleeker head.  Good depth of chest.  Longer in coupling than the first dog, and a shade rounded in topline.  Paddling a tad in front, and tended to crab as he moved around the ring.  Sound hindquarter movement from the rear.  More exaggerated in tail carriage than the first placed dog.  Needs to come together more.

  

Junior Dog

2 entries.

1st:  Cragg's
Hungargunn Too Funky Fme

Heavier type of dog.  Would have preferred less backskull and flews and smaller ears.  Preferred the forequarter & hindquarter assembly on this dog, and had a pleasing height to length ratio.  Moved well.

2nd:  Harrison's
Chico Vom Elmpter Forst [Imp. Ger.]

Did not want to stand for show, and proved a challenge for his handler, and thus making it more difficult to assess his structure.  Leaner type.  Very clean through the head, would have preferred more depth of muzzle.  Stood very wide in front, and moved very wide in front.  Would have preferred a better position of the pelvis and more depth of 2nd thigh.

  

Intermediate Dog

4 entries, 1 absent.

1st:  Bush's
Ch. Heiderst Sachmo

Excellent type, with the correct height to length ratio, and a shape that he carried well on the move.  Lovely head shape, with a clean chiselled skull and cheeks, and good depth of muzzle.  Correct size, position and shape of ears, which were also of the right length and carriage.  Clean and well arched neck with well placed shoulders and short level back and strong topline.  Correct pelvic assembly and hindquarter angulation.  On the negatives, I would like to see him moved a tad slower, as at high speed he tends to overreach, and his hindquarter stood a tad more under himself on the stack.     A true showman, I had much pleasure in awarding this dog CHALLENGE & BEST IN SHOW.

2nd:  Auricht's
Rozsda Copper Shadrach

Slightly heavier type of dog, with pleasant head and expression.  Good depth of chest and shoulder angulation and front movement.  Did not carry his topline as well on the move, and tended to crab as he moved around the ring.  Would have preferred less tilt to his pelvis and greater depth of 2nd thigh.  Tail carriage also a shade more exaggerated than first placed dog.

3rd:  Lovelady & Cragg's
Hungargunn Blazing Aura

Heavier type.  Happy, and biddable dog that used his tail well as he moved.  Would have preferred less backskull and depth in the muzzle and smaller ears.  Would have preferred better layback of upper arm as this affected his front movement which was somewhat close and paddling.  Would also prefer less tilt to his pelvis and greater depth of 2nd thigh.

  

State Bred Dog

1 entry 

1st:  Marsden's
Ch. Erdos Alexander

Not quite the balance that I was looking for.  A shade short on leg length compared to depth of chest and overall body length.  Pleasant head.  Would have preferred better layback of upper arm, and a tighter movement at the elbows.  Did not carry his topline well on the move.

  

Australian Bred Dog

3 entries, 1 absent.

1st: Crump's
Ch. Erdos Razzle Dazzle E.T.

Slightly heavier type than the second placed dog, with a pleasant head and expression.  Good neck into shoulders, although would have preferred better angulation to his upper arm.  Good depth of chest and well ribbed up.  Slightly longer in the coupling than I would have preferred, however used his hindquarter well, although not as free flowing in this area as the CC winner.  RESERVE CHALLENGE DOG.

2nd:  Harrison & Jackson's
Gonnylde By Fig Leif

Finer type, would have preferred stronger muzzle.  Stood very wide in front and moved wide at the elbows and toed in at the feet.  Would have preferred more length and angulation to the upper arm, and less tilt to the pelvis and greater 2nd thighs.  Rounded through the topline.

  

  

Open Dog

2 entries.

1st:  Gibson's
Ch. Erdos Rebel Rouser

Slightly heavier type, and has the same shoulder construction as his brother, although would have preferred less crossing over and paddling in his front movement.  Tended to crab somewhat and was prone to overreaching.

2nd:  Harrison & Jackson's
Brenwick Keep Us Laughin

Finer type.  Happy & biddable.  Stood wide in front, and would have preferred tighter elbows.  Toes in somewhat in front.  Did not carry his topline well on the move and was rounded through the croup.  Would prefer less tilt to the pelvis and greater depth of 2nd thigh.

  

  

Junior Bitch

4 entries, 1 absent.

1st:  Crump & Marsden's
Erdos Sweet Allyce

Proved to be a bit of a task to handle for her owner, but was of a pleasing type, and held her topline on the move.  Slightly wider in the front than I would have liked and would prefer to see less toeing-in in the front movement, but covered the ground well without evidence of overreaching.

2nd:  Cragg's
Hungargunn Unforgettable 

Heavier type, rather deep in flew and broader in back skull than I would have liked.  Good reach of neck and layback of shoulder, but somewhat steep in upper arm, which lead to a paddling movement in the front.  Also steep in the lay of the pelvis and appeared somewhat stilted in movement behind, and did not carry her shape well in profile on the move.

3rd:  Leopold's
Rozsda Play With Fire

Happy enough for me to approach and handle her but did not want to he there, and did not move out well for her handler.  Pleasing head and neck into topline, however she did not carry herself with the correct shape as she went round the ring.  I would have preferred less width at the elbows, and more angulation to the upper arm, as her movement in the front displayed a paddling action.

  

Intermediate Bitch

4 entries, 2 absent.

1st:  Kloppers'
Erdos Lady In Red

Nice style of bitch, and considered her for the RCC, but her lack of ring manner let her down on the day.  I am sure with a little more effort on the part of her owner/handler, she will be in the winner's circle before too long.  Would have preferred a shade better angulation in the upper arm, as well as in the lay of the pelvis, and could do with a shade more angulation at the stifle, yet she covered the ground well, and held her shape quite reasonably on the move.

2nd:  Marsden & O'Malley's
Erdos Eleanora

Pleasant head and expression, with good neck into shoulders.  Would have preferred tighter elbows, as this affected her front movement.  She did not carry her topline well on the move and I would have preferred a flatter croup.  Needs to be moved at a different speed, as she has a tendency to overreach.

  

State Bred Bitch

1 entry

1st:  Gallie's
Ch. Heiderst Scarlet Fire

Nice style of bitch with a pleasing head and expression.  Good crest and strength of neck, and well set shoulders.  Lovely lay back and length of upper arm.  Had the soundest front movement, coming towards me, on the day.  A shade longer in the coupling than I would have liked, but her overall height to body length ratio was pleasing.  Would have preferred a flatter croup, but she used her hindquarter well.  RESERVE CHALLENGE BITCH.

  

Australian Bred Bitch

3 entries, 1 absent.

1st:  O'Malley, Smith & Auricht's
Ch. Rozsda Copper Kislany

Very nice style of bitch, with a very pleasing head.  Correct width of backskull and depth in flews, with flat cheeks and medium sized oval eyes that displayed the required soft & gently gundog expression.  Well laid back shoulders and sound forequarter movement.  Good, sound hocks which displayed parallel movement behind.  She carried her shape well on the move and did so in a fluid, effortless manner.  She used her tail well on the move.  BITCH CHALLENGE.  RUNNER-UP TO BEST IN SHOW.

2nd:  Harrison & Jackson's
Gonnylde By Fig Jam

Finer type.  Would have preferred a shade more depth in muzzle, and more angulation to the upper arm.  Her resultant movement was closer in front than I would have liked.  Would have preferred a flatter croup and more angulation to the hindquarters.

  

Veteran Bitch

1 entry.

1st:  Marsden's
Ch. Willowbank Peppermint C.D.

Nice type of bitch, showing her age a shade, but performed well.  She was very pleased to be out there, and that was very nice to see.  Would have preferred tighter elbows, and less toeing-in in her front movement.  [It was interesting to put together this critique with the aid of the catalogue, as I was able to see the familial influence in the breeding.  This bitch has the same forequarter assembly as her sons.]  More rounded in the croup than I would have liked, and a shade too upright in pelvis.  She too used her tail well on the move.

  

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